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28 minutes ago, avstu said:

Seems Tom Heaton could be the next one through the door..

Another 3 Lions International--spoke to a couple of Burnley fans Sunday--they still rate him at Turf Moor--

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Too much change can be a problem but we released players that were not always first choice in the championship and 4 of our first choice outfield players were on loan, we need to make more signings th

I think a lot of deals are all depending on holidays. Agents can only do so much without the players.

Agreed Elmo and Taylor will certainly Imo stay this season and I believe that at the end of the season they are then out of contract and they can then be released. To big a job to completely over

2 minutes ago, freddy said:

Another 3 Lions International--spoke to a couple of Burnley fans Sunday--they still rate him at Turf Moor--

I think Burnley had to make a decision over him or Pope and with Heaton being the older player, its easy to see why they are allowing him to leave.

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1 minute ago, Apollo said:

Very good keeper.

Yeah, one i rate highly too.

Was surprised though when i looked earlier and he has only played about 20 more Premiership games than Butland.

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1 hour ago, avstu said:

Yeah, one i rate highly too.

Was surprised though when i looked earlier and he has only played about 20 more Premiership games than Butland.

Good keeper,  but Imo we should be signing Butland.

Butland is 26, Heaton 33. 

I have no issue with the price Stoke have quoted (20-25 million), giving us a goalkeeper for possibly the next 10 years.

I've seen 7 million quoted for Heaton and in 2-3 years we'll be looking for another goalkeeper, makes no sense.

So far it's all papertalk, so we will see what happens,  but I feel we will have missed a trick if we don't snap up Butland. 

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9 hours ago, markymark said:

Good keeper,  but Imo we should be signing Butland.

Butland is 26, Heaton 33. 

I have no issue with the price Stoke have quoted (20-25 million), giving us a goalkeeper for possibly the next 10 years.

I've seen 7 million quoted for Heaton and in 2-3 years we'll be looking for another goalkeeper, makes no sense.

So far it's all papertalk, so we will see what happens,  but I feel we will have missed a trick if we don't snap up Butland. 

Makes perfect sense to me Mark, because of FFP we have to operate within a budget, what is spent strengthening the GK position could be put to better use elsewhere.

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I rate both Heaton and Butland, but if Burnley rejected 7mill and claim that that bid is 'way off' as has been quoted, then I'd stay clear. If we end up paying 10+ for a 33 year old who hasn't got that much more experience than a keeper 7 years younger I'll be baffled. 

Stoke's valuation is way off for a lad who openly wants to leave and has 24 months left on his contract. Could get a loanee in or go with what we have and buy him for half the price next year when they panic sell

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1 hour ago, dorset lion said:

Makes perfect sense to me Mark, because of FFP we have to operate within a budget, what is spent strengthening the GK position could be put to better use elsewhere.

What are our FFP retraints?, I personally don't know.

FFP restraints seem only to apply to certain clubs, whilst the big clubs operate as they see fit.  Case in point being PSG how do they operate within the FFP rules?

However back on point, I would still pursue Butland over Heaton as it puts that position to bed for the next decade, IMO that makes sense.

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Aston Villa are in advanced talks to sign Brentford defender Ezri Konsa, Football Insider can reveal.

The Midlands giants are looking to bring in another central defender alongside £26.5million record signing Tyrone Mings and have set their sights on prising Konsa from Dean Smith’s old club.

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6 hours ago, markymark said:

What are our FFP retraints?, I personally don't know.

FFP restraints seem only to apply to certain clubs, whilst the big clubs operate as they see fit.  Case in point being PSG how do they operate within the FFP rules?

However back on point, I would still pursue Butland over Heaton as it puts that position to bed for the next decade, IMO that makes sense.

I haven't a clue about FFP restraints, other than they exist, I have read that we've issued £30 million worth of shares to help cash flow and while I can't claim to understand the detail of that it sounds like a way of remaining within FFP as Sawiris and Edens can't just bankroll us.

Your case for Butland from a purely footballing perspective makes perfect sense, I'm just saying that we have a budget to operate within and have to worry about now as well as the future.

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