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Dennis Praet

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To be honest, the cup final is a game we shouldn't attribute to Sherwood, arsenal were unplayable and although we looked shite, no matter how well we'd played it wouldn't have made a jot of difference.

Sherwood has a lot to prove, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't be writing is off just yet, we're making the right sounds in the transfer market IMO, and it's refreshing to see us looking at players with half a pedigree. First game of the season everyone has to be behind the whole team including Tim, as he had the toughest job in the league last year as side from Pearson, in motivating the group of players we had and he got the results we needed not necessarily all the results we wanted but gor our survival, which was what anyone would have asked for when he came in.

Think people need to remember where we are in this day and age not where we used to be. We're not going to be challenging for Europe in the immediate future, and I genuinely believe that we have the best man in place to do the job that needs to be done.

Players have to shoulder more of the blame for the Cup final but it was a disgrace and saying nothing we did would have made a difference is no consolation for doing nothing, if you ask me. It was nothing but embarrassing.

There is also no point in getting excited about rumours. He's brought in Richards and shipped out a few. That's all we can accredit to him in terms of transfers so far.

I hope he succeeds, as I hope all Villa managers do, but I have reservations.

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I never said he shouldn't be given a chance; what I did say was I don't see why people rate him so highly after a handful of mediocre appearances and one good goal against a championship side.

The lad has more skill than anyone else we've had at VP for quite a while, thats why people want to see more of him. what did stoke show him up for being Karl??

i dont think anyone can be judged on 3-4 apperances in a new league. Its going to be an interesting month, hopefully more ups than downs.

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Players have to shoulder more of the blame for the Cup final but it was a disgrace and saying nothing we did would have made a difference is no consolation for doing nothing, if you ask me. It was nothing but embarrassing.

There is also no point in getting excited about rumours. He's brought in Richards and shipped out a few. That's all we can accredit to him in terms of transfers so far.

I hope he succeeds, as I hope all Villa managers do, but I have reservations.

slow down there postie!!!

we can accredit him to everythin the media write rumours and more. wheres ur villa glasses, stick them back on because u are starting to make sense and i dont like it

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Does anyone know why Sherwood is so against giving Gil a chance??

Apparently wasnt picked in the squad and threw his dummy out the pram and didnt stay at Villa Park to watch the lads. Mate heard from a member of staff whilst on the Villa Tour

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Apparently wasnt picked in the squad and threw his dummy out the pram and didnt stay at Villa Park to watch the lads. Mate heard from a member of staff whilst on the Villa Tour

Wasn't that reported though and there were photo's of him actually at the match which showed it was wrong.

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If he sells Gil then he's an idiot.

He deserves some credit but it's not like Sherwood did an amazing job. He dragged us over the line - just.

Sherwood did a great job turning the club around and keeping us up - some people didn't want him here and are quick to judge .

As for Gil he had a handful of games so far too quick to hail him as some great flair player - he was appalling against Stoke and no surprise Sherwood has barely given him a look in since .

If he was that good he wouldn't have been loaned out iN Spain and available so cheaply .

Give Sherwood time to build his team , his way !

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To be honest, the cup final is a game we shouldn't attribute to Sherwood, arsenal were unplayable and although we looked shite, no matter how well we'd played it wouldn't have made a jot of difference.

Sherwood has a lot to prove, don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't be writing is off just yet, we're making the right sounds in the transfer market IMO, and it's refreshing to see us looking at players with half a pedigree. First game of the season everyone has to be behind the whole team including Tim, as he had the toughest job in the league last year as side from Pearson, in motivating the group of players we had and he got the results we needed not necessarily all the results we wanted but gor our survival, which was what anyone would have asked for when he came in.

Think people need to remember where we are in this day and age not where we used to be. We're not going to be challenging for Europe in the immediate future, and I genuinely believe that we have the best man in place to do the job that needs to be done.

Interesting. Two points I wish to make concerning your post.

The first is if Arsenal were so unplayable how did Reading push them so close? In my humble opinion they closed Arsenal down all over the pitch and harassed them like Big Sam's Bolton used to do. We on the other hand went toe to toe with them and gave them far too much room which was suicidal. That was the manager's fault although I do accept that the players also froze on the day.

Secondly, the last two sentences of your post although realistic is nonetheless the defeatist attitude that Sherwood is trying to banish from the club. He is trying to change that mentality by bringing in players who are used to winning trophies hence the Richards purchase.

I understand why you have stated this in your post but unless the fans also raise their expectations then we will continue to accept mediocrity and ultimate failure.

As someone once said 'if someone's a good loser then I will show you a loser.'

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Players have to shoulder more of the blame for the Cup final but it was a disgrace and saying nothing we did would have made a difference is no consolation for doing nothing, if you ask me. It was nothing but embarrassing.

There is also no point in getting excited about rumours. He's brought in Richards and shipped out a few. That's all we can accredit to him in terms of transfers so far.

I hope he succeeds, as I hope all Villa managers do, but I have reservations.

We can have this conversation at the end of next season when he's had a fair crack, I have faith, although had to get darker claret and blue tints since the sun's so f**cking bright this week!

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Sherwood did a great job turning the club around and keeping us up - some people didn't want him here and are quick to judge .

As for Gil he had a handful of games so far too quick to hail him as some great flair player - he was appalling against Stoke and no surprise Sherwood has barely given him a look in since .

If he was that good he wouldn't have been loaned out iN Spain and available so cheaply .

Give Sherwood time to build his team , his way !

If you think that he did a 'great' job that's fine but, to me, that's a sign of how low some Villa fans' expectations have fallen.

We'll have to disagree regarding Gil. Everyone has to start somewhere. He's young enough still to get even better. In any case, he showed much more in limited playing time than the likes of N'Zogbia, a bone idle player Sherwood used time and time again.

There are no footballing grounds for him having been frozen out that I, and many others, can see. If one below par performance is, as you suggest, the reason, we wouldn't have been able to field a team for most of last season.

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If you think that he did a 'great' job that's fine but, to me, that's a sign of how low some Villa fans' expectations have fallen.

We'll have to disagree regarding Gil. Everyone has to start somewhere. He's young enough still to get even better. In any case, he showed much more in limited playing time than the likes of N'Zogbia, a bone idle player Sherwood used time and time again.

There are no footballing grounds for him having been frozen out that I, and many others, can see. If one below par performance is, as you suggest, the reason, we wouldn't have been able to field a team for most of last season.

What we are not part to is what goes on behind the scenes - sherwoods comments suggest maybe Gil sulked or had an attitude problem and needed to train better .

Granted he looked bright but we didn't see enough to really judge him one way or the other - several have looked good at the start and sunk into ineptitude.

Regarding nzogbia , I agree - Sherwood took on a team with 2 wins in 19 who couldn't score - his results were a vast improvement however the last 3 games were shockingly poor .

He needs to being in his own players and jettison lamberts trash - I will judge him next summer but am pleased so far .

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No still very much on if you believe twitter. Sherwood has apparently spoken to his father already.

Praet happens? Joke from another forum. :lol:

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Heard that this may have cooled with Sherwood now believing Gil is our number 10 after getting a better look at him in pre season. Has said he didn't play him late last season bee cause he played people he 'trusted' a little more in the intensity of a relegation battle but feels he can affect games for him this year.

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Saw we may be back in for this guy today as his price has dropped? Would be a great signing if it happens best young player 2013/14 season. Still only 21.

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Maybe the deal is too good to pass up? It would add some needed squad depth. I hope we can tie up another defender before the window shuts

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