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Brigada 1874 Banned?


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I am sure many of you remember a young lad coming on this forum a good year or two now talking about the Brigada and there attempts to try and re-create an atmosphere at Villa Park.

For those who dont know much about them - they sit in L8 of the Lower Holte and can be often seen waving flags and so on.

At Rotherham they was kicked out the ground for some reason and now the group have made a statement:

Although the title of James’ iconic 1991 hit “Sit Down” is made up of the two favourite words of our hi-viz clad friends at Villa Park you get the impression that they aren’t so familiar with the content of the song. The “extremes of sweet and sour” that Tim Booth sings of are ones that are all too familiar with football fans, ecstasy and agony are states of mind that football fans the world over embrace and endure throughout the course of 90 minutes. Though I may be wrong it is hard to imagine feeling the same spectrum of emotion when ejecting a season ticket holder of 13 years for simply standing up and supporting his team.

What happened on Wednesday night against Rotherham was a disgrace. As expected the ground wasn’t as full as the previous Saturday and this was the same in L8 where about 50 people had turned out. Despite the low numbers the atmosphere was jovial, there was persistent singing and fans were enjoying themselves. This was up until about the 8th minute of the game when we were joined by around 8-10 stewards, including senior stewards who demanded that supporters towards the front of the section sit down, they confiscated the tickets of a number of fans and then departed. Following a few seconds break the singing started again, moments later the stewards returned, this time accompanied by a couple of police officers. A number of fans at the front of the section were then led away under the concourse by senior stewards and police. A couple of minutes later the stewards and police returned once more to harass people on the next row, they confiscated a number of tickets from these fans but did not eject them. On learning that the fans who had been lead away moments earlier had been told to leave the ground the remaining group members left the ground in protest, provoking applause from some supportive fans on the way out. On leaving we met other members who had arrived late and who also joined the walkout despite failing to see a single ball being kicked in anger. Not being welcome in the ground we decided to walk down to the corner of Trinity Road where the Holte meets the Trinity, we stood there for the remaining 20 minutes or so of the first half and supported the team from outside the ground, where we were able to stand and sing without harassment. In must be remembered that while standing we were blocking no ones view, there was no danger of us getting vertigo and falling from our feet and no danger of being swept out of the ground by high winds coming in from Aston Hall.

Today, on Saturday 31st August a fan went on line to check availability for the Hull away fixture, he found that his log in was blocked so he rang the club. On doing so the staff member on the end of the phone informed him that he wasn’t allowed to buy tickets, he asked why and the staff member said he would have to speak to his supervisor, he then asked the fan if he was at the Rotherham game, he replied that he was and was then told that he had been blocked from buying tickets for future Villa matches and that a employee of Aston Villa Football Club would phone him on Monday to discuss the issue further. We do not know whether this represents a temporary or permanent ban. It is clear to the group that the club have an agenda to make the lives of those in L8 as difficult as possible, last season we had the debacle around the “One Stan Petrov” banner, which prompted the head of media at Aston Villa to appear on a radio talk show berating the group, the group were given no prior notice that we would be the topic of conversation on the phone in. We’ve had stewards try to snatch banners off fans at the Sunderland game and now the club have moved to the pretext of “persistent standing” as a stick with which to beat the group. Away fans persistently stand, fans in areas or the upper Holte and Lower North persistently stand and rightly so! We stand because we want to support our club and should be free to do so in L8 as other fans are in other sections of the ground.

There has been much talk recently about the trial of safe standing at Villa Park, the current reality is that standing in certain sections of the ground comes with very real risk of being escorted off the premises by police. There have been calls from the club for the “12th Man” to turn Villa Park into a cauldron that visiting teams will find intimidating and difficult to play in, the fans want this to happen and are trying to make it happen, but we can’t do this if we’re sat slumped in our seats beneath the watchful eye of the boys in iridescent orange and yellow. We shall not be moved, stand up if you love Villa!

I am all for what they are trying to achieve but weather they like it or not the rules in the Premiership are that all fans are to be seated at all times. I personally stand at the back of the Holte 99% of the time and very rarely have any issues from the stewards or police but if I did I would understand why. The rules are in place by the FA and the Premier League and not by Aston Villa Football Club - weather we agree with them or not - they are there and made very clear before anyone buys a ticket.

What are peoples views on this situation?

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here is their end of season vid http://youtu.be/SYaNzSMqIQ8

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That reminds me of an ex.

The club have asked for an atmosphere and applaud it when it happens and the footballing authorities are forever banging on about the unique atmosphere within English stadiums.

Well my message to those in charge is you can't have it both ways, fans do not sit down to sing, an atmosphere is an organic thing you can't just turn it on and off so unless fans are seriously stepping out of line leave them to back their team as they see fit.

What sort of a country is this becoming ? when did standing become a dangerous activity ?

To take this to it's literal conclusion a premier league match should go something like this.........The players come out of the tunnel, we all stand to applaud and the ref takes them straight back down the tunnel and 42,000 people are banned.

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Absolutely agree with Dorset Lion. Villa have been at the forefront of bringing back safe standing as well....so to crackdown on a group of vocal fans in (just over) a 22,000 crowd against Rotherham on a Wednesday night for 'persistent standing' seems absolutely disgraceful, and to be honest it's a very disheartening move from the club.

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Absolutely agree with Dorset Lion. Villa have been at the forefront of bringing back safe standing as well....so to crackdown on a group of vocal fans in (just over) a 22,000 crowd against Rotherham on a Wednesday night for 'persistent standing' seems absolutely disgraceful, and to be honest it's a very disheartening move from the club.

Very disheartening........and welcome to the forum.

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You can't stand in the Holte End?

"Lions roar, not whimper. You're the hunters, not the hunted. Now get out there to f*ck and bring home the points because if you don't bring home the bacon you get treated like a pig. Pigs belong in the sty and that shithole's down the road. We're the pride of Birmingham so FFS make Brum proud tonight." -AnneMc

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I'm not going to say it's a disgrace on the fact that we only have the story from the Brigada point of view. Who is to say a select few of the fans in that section weren't being abusive and threatening towards the stewards when they came to ask them to sit down. If in-fact they were thrown out and banned for what is said in the statement then it is a real shame the stewards and club have gone to such lengths over something so petty. But in all honesty I can quite easily see the fans with that level of passion for the club being antagonistic towards the stewards.

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As we only have one side of the story i will wait until the club speak out on this, i will say one thing however, and its something Stu touched on.

If you want to stand throughout the game and wave banners flags etc there is only one place to do it, the upper holte as far back as possible, this is what feels like a unofficail arrangement with the the Club as i have never been asked to sit down or stop signing!

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As we only have one side of the story i will wait until the club speak out on this, i will say one thing however, and its something Stu touched on.

If you want to stand throughout the game and wave banners flags etc there is only one place to do it, the upper holte as far back as possible, this is what feels like a unofficail arrangement with the the Club as i have never been asked to sit down or stop signing!

Signing what? Autographs? More cheques to AVFC? LOL.

Agree that there are two sides to every story. There must be more to this one than the version Stu quoted.

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