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I personally don't get the hype in some players. I am not the biggest fan of the likes of French and Spanish leagues. So many players have come to England or even Germany and have failed to be successful but smash it in those leagues. Its partly why Ronaldo will always be above Messi for me.

The simple way to define historic would be trophies won but if you look at how the premier league has made winning trophies almost a certainty for some for much of its 26 years I'm not convinced that can be the only measure. I don't deny my bias but if you go back to 1993 I think only Liverpool had won more than Aston Villa and although a few rich clubs have surpassed us during the era of money being king none of them were founder members of the football league, which is why Accrington Stanley and Notts County are historic clubs and Birmingham City are not. I doubt I need remind anyone on here that only one club in world football can claim to be the club that started the 1st football league, that's pretty damned historic. There was a time we could claim to be the biggest club on the planet and although we've been overtaken by a few for me there are 5 clubs that stand head and shoulders above the rest in terms of place in history....Aston Villa, Everton, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man Utd.

Hope Hourihane starts for this one, he deserves it and he adds another dimension to our game. Must win